Can You Get Into Grad School With a 2.8 Gpa
Realistically, can I go into grad schoolhouse with a two.8ish GPA?
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I am at a meridian 25 undergrad school in the Usa.
Do I take any hope?
If not, what are my options?
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No, that is not very realistic. And you should ask yourself whether you know the material well plenty. A 2.4 now would indicate that you don't know the material at all. So I would dubiousness you would know it well plenty to actually become all A's from now on.
I appreciate the response.
I don't desire to write a sob story and bluntly know that grad schools won't give a dang but I take had some issues i.eastward. hospitalized, depression, feet disorder (because the undergrad school I got into because of GPA, SAT, ACT scores, I think I'm pretty capable of doing well academically). I think I'm starting to become improve a little then I recollect I should be able to ameliorate my GPA. As well I was planning on double majoring and doing five years so I'd have enough of classes and quarters to raise my GPA.
And no obviously I know I won't become into a bully grad school. I'm simply wondering if information technology's possible or if I should just requite upwardly at present basically.
You should definitely start thinking seriously about a plan B. Recall about what you're going to do if yous won't get into grad school. If yous choose your options right at this stage, then you'll have quite some options of employment. If you don't choose them right, then your degree might not be very useful to go you hired.
I guess this is probably something I could talk to a counselor almost (and should have already done) but school's out now. What exactly are some other options? Would it be possible to get a job with that gpa? The internships are really limited for me considering my GPA.
Honestly I just want to have a job in a related field (physics, astrophysics, or astronomy) that allows me to live without existence scared I'yard not going to be able to pay the bills. I experience like grad school would give me the best options because the jobs I'd use to subsequently finishing grad schoolhouse wouldn't be concerned with my undergrad gpa, I assume.
Here is a question for you -- I'1000 assuming that y'all have the current depression GPA now considering you have either failed or barely passed nearly of your coursework from the get-go 2 years, is that correct? My proposition would take been for you to retake the courses that you take failed (or barely passed) to both boost your GPA and to demonstrate that y'all have a solid understanding of the earlier textile.
Barring that, I would suggest the post-obit:
(ane) Really go over and review your before grade material with someone (whether information technology would be a professor at the schoolhouse, a tutor/TA, a fellow classmate, etc.) and decide just how much you really know the cloth. Take them quiz y'all or otherwise endeavour to assess your electric current state of knowledge. And so really, intensively study this material until you master that earlier cloth. This is important because in science classes, noesis is cumulative and sequential, and then understanding the foundations is disquisitional to understanding of more than advanced material.
(2) In tandem with (i), really examine your current study habits and determine what works/doesn't work. Determine if it takes longer or shorter for you lot to pick upwardly the material than others.
Past post-obit (1) and (2), y'all would be in a much better position to dramatically improve your grades so that you lot could aim for the 4.0 GPA in your concluding 2 years that Vanadium 50 is talking near. I know this sounds daunting, but it is doable, every bit long as your are very disciplined, organized, and extremely dedicated to comeback. In this way, your options for graduate school (and for better career opportunities, should you decide grad schoolhouse is not for you) will open upward for you. All-time of luck!
[Aside to micromass: I'm curious near what you meant in terms of "choosing your options right at this stage", in terms of career opportunities.]
But what I am trying to say is that while not all promise is lost, chances are very high that you won't succeed in grad school. Not only because of the grades, just because y'all probably don't know the material all that well/don't have good study habits. Information technology is possible to change this, only realistically about people in your state of affairs don't manage to do this. And then what I'grand trying to say is to think of a programme B. You lot should still attempt to go into grad school, but you should also make sure y'all will be employable if you don't make it. For example, y'all could attempt taking quite some information science classes with the goal of getting a task every bit a programmer. You should try to find other such options that you can go for.
Also, even if y'all did make it to grad schoolhouse and did well, astrophysics/astronomy is not the career path to choose if you want job security.
No one has yet mentioned that some admissions boards put much more than weight on your major GPA than your overall GPA. Alternatively, some put more weight on your final two years.
A 2.iv GPA is a C+ average. While that is certainly mediocre, it does non translate into "y'all take either failed or barely passed almost of your coursework", as others have stated or insinuated. All the same, you need to really focus your efforts on improving academically in your remaining years. Fourth dimension management and study skills are key.
average. While that is certainly mediocre, it does not translate into "yous have either failed or barely passed about of your coursework", equally others have stated or insinuated
In graduate school, a C is considered failing. Since graduate coursework is more challenging, C's and below are large ruby flags to graduate admissions committees.
Yeah, and people win the lottery. Would you advise people to count on winning the lottery as role of their fiscal planning.
In graduate school, a C is considered failing. Since graduate coursework is more challenging, C'south and below are large red flags to graduate admissions committees.
A) He's not in graduate school.
B) Whether coursework is more difficult in grad school is a matter of opinion. I didn't find information technology to be more challenging. I thought grad school was less challenging overall, due to the fact that less time was spent in classes and more than time was spent on research. The classes I did accept were more interesting than the ones I took during my undergrad years, which no doubt made information technology seem easier.
No, merely the chances of getting admitted to a graduate program with a two.8 GPA are much greater than winning the lottery.Aye, and people win the lottery. Would yous advise people to count on winning the lottery as part of their financial planning.
Not likewise much graduate level courses having been done, but if someone is qualified for a grad level course and gives reasonable try, the typical minimum grade to expect should be B. The few I had, the grades I earned were A's. I did not acquire much from them! (or was it a A in one of them and a B in the other? I don't remember.)In graduate school, a C is considered failing. Since graduate coursework is more challenging, C'southward and below are big red flags to graduate admissions committees.
Yes, and people win the lottery. Would you propose people to count on winning the lottery equally role of their fiscal planning.
I would suggest he works as hard as he tin can in the next two years and then consider his options and then. If he can't see himself doing anything else with his life and he improves dramatically then grad school is still very much possible and others in his state of affairs take gotten in to grad school a lot more frequently and then someone does winning the lottery. If working difficult with the chance of grad school is a motivation and so he should have that.
That still supports the communication of working hard and making good choices of courses.I'k non and then sure that the issue is whether or not he will seem okay to the admissions committees.. To become into graduate school, y'all demand to seem BETTER than a lot of the other candidates.
Personally, I think everyone, no-matter their GPA, should take a plan B. (I've also never met a student or mail-dr. who didn't besides have a plan B - generally along the lines of surf-shops and bakeries. 
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A) He's not in graduate school.
That's the point. The graduate committee volition remember: "hey, this guy has gotten a lot of C'due south. So if he tin't even get solid B's in undergraduate classes, so what hope is in that location for him in graduate school?".
I don't think anybody says that it's totally impossible for him to get to grad school. We are just telling him what graduate schools will think, and they will non be very happy with a three.ii in the concluding ii years. So he should at present try to piece of work hard and get close to four.0 in the last two years. And he should also keep in mind that there is a very big adventure that he won't be accustomed in grad schoolhouse at all, and then he needs to prepare for that outcome.
We are not doing him whatsoever favors by saying "It will be alright". Nosotros demand to be realistic.
It depends on the grad school, he probably won't exist getting into PhD programs with full funding or such like, but with a three.2 in the last two years he could get into some lower level/tier masters programs and become from in that location. Doing well in a masters programme could give him good basis to apply to funded PhD programs later on; it's anecdotal but this sort of plan is working for people I know.
But then he really needs to do well in the masters programme! And getting a 3.ii is not particularly very good. Sure, it's non failing, merely I don't consider that as knowing the fabric well (but possibly I have harsh standards). And so the effect is not only getting into a grad school or a masters plan, the issue is actually knowing the cloth. The OP needs to put in a very big endeavour now to solidify the material of the first ii years, while additionally learning the new material well. Physics is a scientific discipline where everything builds on other knowledge. And if your foundations are weak, so is the rest of the structure.
But then he actually needs to do well in the masters program! And getting a 3.2 is non especially very good. Sure, it's not failing, but I don't consider that as knowing the textile well (but perchance I take harsh standards). And then the issue is non only getting into a grad school or a masters programme, the issue is actually knowing the textile. The OP needs to put in a very large try at present to solidify the fabric of the get-go two years, while additionally learning the new material well. Physics is a scientific discipline where everything builds on other knowledge. And if your foundations are weak, so is the rest of the structure.
Eh, I don't recollect having weak grades at the freshman/sophomore level precludes y'all from having adept grades at the college levels. Another anecdote merely my grades in my upper sectionalisation physics classes were much better than my grades at the lower segmentation stuff, I actually idea the upper division material was somewhat easier to learn! Everything builds on itself in physics, but grades only show a small and superficial part of the picture; and at that place's nothing that says that foundations can't be refortified.
grades but show a small and superficial part of the picture;
Merely it's the only thing I can get on in this thread. Perchance he might sympathise physics ameliorate than his grades make it appear, but I haven't seen any indication of that in this thread. So I'll just assume the worst.
and there's nothing that says that foundations can't exist refortified.
Right, and all I am doing is making the OP aware that he needs to put in effort to refortify his foundations! But proverb "Don't worry, it will all be alright, but get ameliorate grades from at present on", that doesn't suffice, since at that place is probably a deeper underlying reason for why he has those grades.
Eh, I don't think having weak grades at the freshman/sophomore level precludes yous from having practiced grades at the higher levels.
No, just that's non the OP's stated plan. His plan is to go from a 2.iv to a 2.8, which implies a 3.2 for the last ii years. This is not a good plan. A improve plan is to get shut to a 4.0 for the adjacent 2 years.
Now, onto the "become a masters at a low-ranked institution and then reapply" programme. This communication gets posted here a lot. A lot. The problem with it is that, if it would work, you lot'd run into a bunch of grad students in RU/VH universities who have taken this path. Y'all don't. And at this point in the discussion, people and so fence, "Well it should piece of work this way!". Fact is, it doesn't.
No, but that's non the OP's stated plan. His plan is to become from a 2.4 to a 2.8, which implies a 3.two for the last two years. This is non a skilful program. A better programme is to get close to a 4.0 for the next two years.Now, onto the "get a masters at a low-ranked establishment and and then reapply" plan. This advice gets posted here a lot. A lot. The trouble with it is that, if information technology would work, you'd see a bunch of grad students in RU/VH universities who have taken this path. You lot don't. And at this point in the discussion, people and so argue, "Well it should work this way!". Fact is, it doesn't.
To Vanadium 50:
To exist fair, I would doubtable that the reason why you lot don't see a bunch of grad students in RU/VH universities who take taken this path is that getting into a masters at a depression-ranked institution is often very plush (I've seen the tuition levels of many concluding masters programs in the The states). If a student has already taken on a considerable corporeality of debt to pursue his/her undergraduate degree, taking on that much more debt to terminate a masters degree may non seem all that more than appealing unless there is a strong payoff at the end.
But it'southward the only thing I tin can continue in this thread. Perhaps he might sympathise physics meliorate than his grades make information technology appear, merely I haven't seen whatever indication of that in this thread. Then I'll but assume the worst.Right, and all I am doing is making the OP aware that he needs to put in effort to refortify his foundations! Just saying "Don't worry, information technology volition all exist alright, just get better grades from now on", that doesn't suffice, since there is probably a deeper underlying reason for why he has those grades.
Correct, grades are mostly there for a convenient form of 'accented' measurement betwixt students; I would e'er communication a student to become the highest GPA they can. I got higher grades in my upper division because I did lots of self study to fortify my foundations and it wasn't easy
No, but that's non the OP'south stated programme. His program is to get from a 2.4 to a ii.8, which implies a iii.2 for the concluding 2 years. This is non a good plan. A better plan is to get close to a four.0 for the next 2 years.Now, onto the "get a masters at a low-ranked establishment and then reapply" program. This communication gets posted here a lot. A lot. The trouble with information technology is that, if it would piece of work, y'all'd come across a bunch of grad students in RU/VH universities who take taken this path. You don't. And at this betoken in the discussion, people then argue, "Well it should piece of work this fashion!". Fact is, it doesn't.
Sure, students should aim for the highest GPA's they can. Also, pitiful Vanadium, but you're simply wrong on the masters degree forepart. Setting bated your mis-characterizations, your qualifier doesn't discredit or disprove the thought and in actuality the idea has gotten some push from the APS (http://www.apsbridgeprogram.org/). The fact of the matter is that you lot do see grad students taking this path, it's anecdotal evidence merely I've met several for whom the programme is working and other PhD's whom I've worked with have mentored or worked with students who have likewise taken such a path. That y'all personally don't meet them is irrelevant to the fact that taking a masters to Phd path has worked for getting students into some PhD programs (admitting non tier one institutions).
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